Swingweight fitting question

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By Timothy B

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  1. Timothy B

    Timothy B
    Ben Lomond, CA

    When you order irons (let's say 1 1/2" shorter than standard) with standard steel shafts and stock tour velvet grips, how does your build department add weight to the head to bring it to standard/stock D1 swingweight?  Do you make heads with different total weight OR do you add weight to a stock head and/or shaft?  Tip weights in the shaft would not be enough to get it to D1.  I am wondering if you produce iron heads of different total weight in each loft for more or less head weight to make up for adding (or subtracting for that matter) swingweight?  I ask because I have two sets of ap2's that have head weights that are approximately 8 grams different per the same loft/iron #.  ie do you have 7 iron heads that are produced in multiple head weights and if so how many different head weight options do you make?

    Thanks.

  2. Cath D.

    Cath D.
    Carlsbad, CA

    We do have some variance in head weights, but only +/-2 grams.  We can also add tip weights, but, we would not be able to bring a 1.5" short DYG S300 shaft and stock grip to a D1 swingweight.  At best, it would be C4, maybe C5 (assuming 714 AP2 head)

  3. MK

    MK
    Los Angeles, CA

    Hi Cathi, I just purchased a used set of 712 AP2s from my local golf shop and they came with DG TI S400s but 1/2 longer than standard. Current swingweight is D3. 

    What would be my best options here? I currently play DG TI X100s but wouldn't mind a little bit of a softer shaft. 

    - Hard step them so the lengths would go back to standard OR

    - Butt trim them 1/2 inch

    If I butt trim them, the SW would be at D0 correct? What would be the SW if I hard step the shafts so they play at standard length?

    Thanks in advance

  4. Cath D.

    Cath D.
    Carlsbad, CA

    Hi,  D3 seems a little light for that set up unless they asked for a light swingweight or had a heavier grip on it.  But, assuming a D3 swingweight now, if you butt cut them 1/2" or hard step them, you are probably looking at D0-D0.5.  If you want a softer shaft, hard stepping is going to make them play firmer - cutting them will probably not change the flex.  You may need to reshaft to S400 or S300. You can always use a lighter grip to get it back to D2 or higher if you wish. 

  5. MK

    MK
    Los Angeles, CA

    Thanks for the reply Cathi. You said the SW seems a little light, what SW should they be playing at considering the specs? 1/2 inch long, DG TI S400, GP Tour Velvet standard grips

    Another option I'm looking at is just to re-shaft them but I'm giving it a few more rounds before I decide on what to do. 

  6. Cath D.

    Cath D.
    Carlsbad, CA

    The standard build would probably be D5-D6 with those specs.

  7. Lou G

    Lou G
    San Diego, CA

    Cathi, Titleist Club Concierge said:

    We do have some variance in head weights, but only +/-2 grams.  We can also add tip weights, but, we would not be able to bring a 1.5" short DYG S300 shaft and stock grip to a D1 swingweight.  At best, it would be C4, maybe C5 (assuming 714 AP2 head)

    Golf Pride 25 or Dri Tac Lite grip would bring it to C8 without any tip weight. 

    I have some AP1 irons that are 1/2" short (and 1/2* upright) that are at D0 with Winn Excel RF midsize.  I've had these irons for 2 years.

    I had a 910F 19* that I played at the D3 setting with a 41" Bassara shaft and I used Dri Tac Lite oversize to bring the swingweight to D0.  My setting for a 3 wood is 42" and 58.5* lie angle and for a 7 wood is 41" and 59.5* lie angle (these are from using TM Burner for a couple years prior to 910F).

  8. Paul D

    Paul D
    Pleasanton, CA

    Hello Titleist Team,
    Thanks for putting out great equipment's. I bought 913 D2, very happy with the driver but very unhappy with the cover. It is so hard to put it on, I usually put the cover on after each hit. Please design the better cover. I like this cover better than my 907 and 909 cover because it also cover the shaft.
    Thanks,
  9. John M

    John M
    Ormond Beach, FL

    Cathi,
     
    What was the question that generated your answer?  What specs are you referring to?
     
    Thank you
  10. Cath D.

    Cath D.
    Carlsbad, CA

    Hi John,  MK had a question about standard swingweight on a set of 712 AP2 ions with DYG TI S400 at 1/2 inch long, GP Tour Velvet standard grips

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