Hi John,  You are right -  for every significant weight change you make to a club, there will be a resulting change in the swingweight. That holds true for all clubs.  If you are custom fitted, the question of swingweight is something that is addressed between you and your fitter.  He/she is probably already noting how lighter and heavier swingweights are perceived during the fitting and may not address it directly.

 We don't make any guesses as to swingweight when an order is placed because we have no way of knowing whether a graphite shaft is being put in for a woman that wants a light swingweight or a senior that prefers a heavier swingweight.  If a specific swingweight is desired, you should ask your shop to specify swingweight.  We can build to swingweights within tolerance,  depending on shaft, grip and length.   

Okay, thank's for the response and I'm really curious now.  Exactly how do you "build to swingweights" on the AP2s?  If you use my example with using a heavier grip and say I want to maintain the D2 swingweight, that almost requires you to add weight to the head of the club.  How do you do that?  I'm betting you're not using Lead Tape. :-)  In my example, by my estimation if you increase the grip weight by 10g, you're going to need about 5-6g of additional head weight to maintain the initial swingweight. Where it is going to be put and in what form?

FYI, I've been working with clubs for 40 yrs, starting back when "Woods" were actually made of wood and grips were made of leather.  I'm about to order some 714 AP2s and want to get specific on club characteristics, but my curiosity is getting the better of me.

Sorry for being a pest.

John

I recently took a set of stock 712 AP2's cut them down 3/4" and installed NewDecade Mid Size grips.  By the standard that means they should have measured around C4-C5.  Recently had the lie angle adjusted for the shorter length and they checked the swing weight while making the adjustments.  They all measured at C9. 

So my best guess would be if all you are doing is changing the grips then I wouldn't worry about the change in swing weight.  You most likely won't be able to tell the difference.  Swing weight is all preference and has no effect on the clubs performance whatsoever.  I personally feel no difference after the adjustments I made, but some will swear up and down they can tell the difference between a D1 and D2.  

I would install new grips and see how they feel to you.   Then if they seem light you can just add lead tape to the head.

I did regrip my AP2-712s with Midsize Lamkins grips that were 10grams heavier that the stock Golf Pride Tour Velvets and my D2 swingweight moved to a C8-C9, far too "Light" feeling for me.  To fix the problem, I used Lead tape, not pretty but it was effective.

I would like to order a new set of AP2-714s, but with oversized grips and want to know HOW Titleist is going to add weight to the head since I'm betting they aren't going to use Lead tape.  The physics of the golf club is like a teeter-totter, if you make one end heavier, you have to increase the weight on the other end also.  And since nobody has screw-in adjustable weights in their irons like this generation of Drivers and Fairway woods, I would like to know how they do it.

If we offered that grip and you used a DYG S300 shaft at standard length, we could get to a D0-D1.  Since we don't offer any grip that heavy, we can't simulate and build to it exactly.  You can ask for a D4 and they will get as close as possible. They will use a heavier head and weights if necessary.